Are you offended?

By Jan Dolcater | Apr 25, 2019

How do you feel about seeing so many of the liberal persuasion becoming offended about many ridiculous issues, as well as elements of our history? It seems having an opposing viewpoint on issues is very difficult on these individuals to deal with. It must be due to the liberal combination of a supposedly virtuous outlook on life and an alleged high degree of intellect.

Remember, it was just a short time ago at Emory University in Atlanta when chalk signs of “Vote Trump” on sidewalks appeared to have some liberal students becoming dazed and severely troubled. It is terribly troubling to have to endure such trauma, isn’t it?

Just turned on the TV this evening and discovered a new way to become offended. In the liberal bastion of California, where a new type of racial insensitivity was on display, the Laguna Beach Police had the audacity of having painted American flags on their vehicles What a terrible display of racism. Does this offend you?

Another area that has created extensive tension and created what I consider to be an unnecessary element of apparent offensiveness is the removal of statues or monuments to individuals who participated in the Civil War. Robert E Lee is part of the history of our nation. Without question, this conflict was heartrending to all parts of the country. It was concluded in the proper manner, as Lincoln rightly and justly eliminated slavery. However, how will this be determined at Washington & Lee University, the Arlington House, or Lee Memorial overlooking the Arlington Cemetery? Lee was honored for his conciliatory efforts to heal the wounds of the passage of this tragic nightmare of war. Your thoughts?

Our country had the judgment to correct the ill of slavery, as well as many others. However, I contend that if you do not know where you have been, how do you really know where you are going? We should continue to eliminate issues of all types that divide us, as we are a very blessed mixture of people of race, religion and gender. Hopefully our elected officials will begin to work for the benefit of the people, rather than pointless investigations and rancor.

Just a few weeks ago, students at Hofstra University in New York desecrated the bronze statue of Thomas Jefferson and protested for its removal, as students were offended by its racism. I wonder how many of these "students" realized this individual wrote our Declaration of Independence. I cannot help but wonder what our Founding Fathers, who created this treasure of a nation, would think of such chaos that exists today.

Are you offended? I am plenty offended at the degree of discord and pettiness in the colleges and universities, with their lack of understanding of our heritage. It is equally disappointing in the political arena, with the constant name-calling of identity politics about being racist, sexist or homophobic. How about you, are you offended, too?

Comments (13)
Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 29, 2019 06:54

I agree, Richard, but apparently Ralph has no other life to go to.  We need to be understanding.  He may have no other place for "socialization."  (Precise enough for ya', Ralph?)



Posted by: Richard McKusic, Sr. | Apr 29, 2019 05:15

Personal attacks have got us in this miserable morass. Does Village Soup have to supply a place for this rhetoric to continue?



Posted by: RALPH WALLACE | Apr 28, 2019 17:19

Tut, tut. Grammar:   "...better mind than I..."  You must be precise if you want to be a real writer.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 28, 2019 16:32

Oh, Ralph, I've written plenty of my own as you well know but I find presenting the opinions and statements of more informed individuals -with credit given- to be of special value when arguing with people like you who simply parrot the right wing propaganda sources and then conveniently leave out any credit for those sources as though you thought it all up by yourself.  Like your president who is constantly using "many people are saying" as a source for one lunatic claim after another you'd rather make claims you can't back up and don't even want to.  Lying, the last resort of feeble minds, is the only source the right has, just another reason trump is your perfect "Dear leader."  Or as a better mind than me once wrote:

 

"Conceit in weakest bodies strongest works." -The ghost, Hamlet, Shakespeare

 



Posted by: RALPH WALLACE | Apr 28, 2019 12:08

Gee, Mr. Horvath - you must have been sensational in kindergarten. You are so good at cut and paste. Well, at least this time you used quotation marks. Now try moving up in the world and write something on your own. Maybe start with a piece on how wonderful Bernie Sanders is?



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 27, 2019 17:22

Principled?  Really, Ralph?  And when does that start, or haven't you been paying attention to your own side recently.  When the best minds of American conservatism get up on their hind legs and abandon their party because of the lack of those very "principles" it doesn't leave you a lot to brag about now does it.  But then, like your phony president, you only talk about "principles" without the need to actually display any.  Living up to big talk just doesn't fit into the right's agenda. That's what makes trump so perfect as your standard bearer; liars and hypocrites standing together.  So it is that:

"...  a vote for the GOP is also a vote for egregious obstruction of justice, rampant conflicts of interest, the demonization of minorities, the debasement of political discourse, the alienation of America’s allies, the end of free trade and the appeasement of dictators...  That is why I join George Will and other principled conservatives, both current and former Republicans, in rooting for a Democratic takeover of both houses in November,” he wrote. “Like postwar Germany and Japan, the Republican Party must be destroyed before it can be rebuilt.”  -Max Boot

Of course you can't stand any criticism, even from your own, but you're only too glad to attack your own when a rare Republican stands on those very principles you claim to have.  Someone like:

Robert Mueller. Lifelong Republican. Captain, United States Marine Corps, rifle platoon commander with Second Platoon, H Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, 3rd Marine Division, during the Vietnam War, his military decorations and awards include: the Bronze Star Medal with Combat "V", Purple Heart Medal, two Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medals with Combat "V", Combat Action Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal with three bronze stars, Republic of Vietnam Gallantry Cross, Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal, and Parachutist Badge. While Deputy Attorney General oversaw prosecutions of Manuel Noriega, Pan Am flight 103 terrorists and John Gotti. Nominated FBI director by George W. Bush, confirmed by senate unanimously 98 to 0. Threatened to quit over warrantless wiretapping and forbid FBI from participating in CIA enhanced interrogations. 10 year term extended two years by Barack Obama making him longest serving director after Hoover.”

Go ahead, Ralph.  Tell us all how your "principles" make you criticize and demean this man in favor of cadet bone spurs.  And it goes on:

"Richard Brookhiser, a longtime stalwart at National Review, summed up the Trump effect: “Now the religious Right adores a thrice-married cad and casual liar. But it is not alone. Historians and psychologists of the martial virtues salute the bone-spurred draft-dodger whose Khe Sanh was not catching the clap. Cultural critics who deplored academic fads and slipshod aesthetics explicate a man who has never read a book, not even the ones he has signed. . . . Straussians, after leaving the cave, find themselves in Mar-a-Lago. Econocons put their money on a serial bankrupt.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-this-is-what-conservatism-has-become-count-me-out/2018/02/25/853685c6-19bd-11e8-92c9-376b4fe57ff7_story.html?utm_term=.6c27ba33cee1

And on:

"This is not the political force that has recently taken over the Republican Party — with a plurality in the presidential primaries and a narrow victory in November. That has been the result of extreme polarization, not a turn toward enduring values. The movement is authoritarian in theory, apocalyptic in mood, prone to conspiracy theories and personal abuse, and dismissive of ethical standards. The president-elect seems to offer equal chances of constitutional crisis and utter, debilitating incompetence. " -Michael Gerson, December 19

So, tell us all, Ralph, how much you value those "principles" at least in word, if not in deed.  Perhaps a former presidential candidate of your party says it best.

"I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by the individuals in the highest office of the land, including the president. I'm appalled that fellow citizensn working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia - inclulding information that had been illegallly obtained; that none of them acted to inform American law enforcement;  and that the campaign chairman was actively promoting Russian interests in Ukraine.  We've strayed far from the principles of the founders."  -Mitt Romney.

 

And I have a feeling, Ralph, he wouldn't be too crazy about you, either.



Posted by: RALPH WALLACE | Apr 27, 2019 15:42

"Troll" is name-calling? Wow - a little thin-skinned there, guy. And, just a little remedial lesson on my T.R. quote: I DID address the subject at hand (read my column again); I certainly don't take advice from you "on doing what I've always said about conservatives."  You see, I would rather be a principled "mindless cheerleader"  (now, that wouldn't be name-calling would it, Mr. Horvath?)  inside the ring of discourse than a petty, vitriolic troll on the outside (far, far outside) looking in.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 27, 2019 14:50

Yes, they are, Ken.  I've always said so.  Maybe Ralph could add to one just as soon as he stops the name-calling and addresses the subject at hand instead of doing what I've also always said about conservatives, that they can dish it out but can't take it.



Posted by: Kenneth W Hall | Apr 27, 2019 11:27

Better then the liberal cabal of BS!  LOL  Just joking Ron!  You of all people should be cheering Jan on for expressing her views.  Even though you disagree with her, It is her right just as your is.  Good debates are healthy my friend.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 27, 2019 07:13

And then again, Ralph, there are the mindless cheerleaders, like you, who have little to add to any argument but shriek their support from the peanut gallery anyway, or as Grima called it "a kind of radiating paranoia-verse (my own phrase) of fellow lonely-hearts who feed upon and regurgitate all manner of conspiracy theories, hatred and general detestation, as they seek to identify with the online devotees of whichever wacko is broadcasting loudest at any given moment."

 

Sounds like the conservative cabal of VS, doesn't it.



Posted by: RALPH WALLACE | Apr 26, 2019 15:50

Well said, Jan.  And….offended by trolls like Mr. Horvath? Hardly. Like Teddy Roosevelt said, "...there are those who get in the ring and fight the good fight (as you do in your monthly columns) …. and there are those who stand outside and rail at the warriors (that would be Mr. Horvath). Keep your head up high and proud - like Tom Brady walking off the field totally oblivious to some "expert" fan screaming at him about how he should have played.



Posted by: Harold Bryson Mosher | Apr 26, 2019 10:06

Some time ago I heard a guy on the radio (NPR) that was somehow affiliated with the Black Lives Matter movement.  He said that removing Confederate monuments was an ok idea if that’s all you want to accomplish. But, he said, if you want to say something about the direction we’re taking, put some monuments of MLK, Rosa Parks, etc. right next to the Confederate ones.  I have no sympathy for those who would find that offensive.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Apr 25, 2019 18:42

"Our country had the judgment to correct the ill of slavery?"  Really, Jan?  Is that what you call a war that took the lives of 632,000 Americans?  

And Robert E. Lee was responsible for a great many of those lost lives. In defense of slavery he fought against his own country, directed his men to fire on the stars and stripes and kill other Americans while referring to the Union troops as "those people."  Undeniably he is part of our history but so is Benedict Arnold, John Brown, and Tokyo Rose.  Remember them, yes, but glorify them?  No.

And I have to admit that I find it just a little disingenuous for a conservative -who is "offended" by any contradiction- to complain about selective liberal sensitivity.  Do you remember when Fox news -and especially Hannity- had a hissy fit because president Obama wore a tan suit?  Or called him a terrorist when he fist bumped his wife?  Or shrieked in indignation that he would even think about talking to North Korea's dictator? Talk about snowflakes. (He changed his tune when trump actually did the same thing.)

But your whore-mongering, sexually abusing, lying, dictator loving, business cheat of a president gets a pass from all the so-called "christian" conservatives who refused to believe that Obama wasn't a Muslim but insist that trump is a christian. (Well, since none of them behave according to Christ's dictates why be "offended" when trump ignores them all.) As Bill Maher says, conservatives can turn on a dime when it comes to condemning liberals for any imagined sin while forgiving the most foul behavior flaws of our current ignoramus-in-chief.

Well, this screed of yours doesn't deserve this much attention.  So what offends you, Jan?  I think I know.  It's anyone that thinks forward instead of backward and cares more for the substance of democracy rather than the window dressing of American conservatism.  

Offended now?  I'll bet.



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