Pre-election choices

By Jan Dolcater | May 30, 2019

Although we are 18 months away from the next general election, there have been many new ideas and philosophies proposed. Let us compare them with the results of the Trump administration to date for you to determine which appeals to you.

First, let's examine the proposed “Green New Deal,” which would do away with air travel, due to no more fossil fuel, a complete renovation of all private, public and business structures to meet the proposed new energy standards within the next 12 years, and the elimination of all cattle because of their flatulence, Next, Medicare for all, which I believe will provide poorer health care due to long wait times for many procedures to be accomplished. Then, we have free college tuition for all. Freedom checks of $1,000 for all individuals 18 and over every month, whether the individual is employed or not.

Let us not forget having the voting age lowered to allow “knowledgeable 16-year-olds” to participate, the elimination of the Electoral College, which will make it possible for the large populated states to control all national elections. Not to be overlooked will be the proposed changes of abortion laws to permit abortion procedures to proceed all the way through the third trimester. I almost forgot the important change of packing the Supreme Court to have 15 justices (all liberal, of course) to provide for a more “just” system.

Gee whiz, I am out of breath trying to cram all of these uplifting, practical and affordable proposals into perspective. How about you, which of these do you like the best, or do all of them sound good to you? I am very curious if you have any realistic ideas how to pay for any or all of the above? Remember, more is not necessarily better.

By contrast, let us take a look at various elements from a different point of view. In the last six years of the Obama/Biden administration the GDP averaged 1.5 percent, which was very anemic. In Trump’s first year, the GDP rose to 2.5 percent, and then in 2018 it rose again to 3.2 percent, and it has remained at that level in the first quarter of 2019 as well. For those who may not understand, GDP is the quantitative measure of the total monetary value of goods and services produced in the nation.

Bear in mind that with the economy rolling with this momentum that unemployment has declined from Obama/Biden's last year of 4.8 percent to 3.4 percent today. Also today there are approximately 1 million more job openings available than individuals looking for work. This unemployment number also has produced the lowest levels of unemployment for black, for Asians, and for women in the workplace. All of this good news comes with inflation in check. Wages are now increasing at the rate of 2.3 percent per month. Please do not forget the results of the stale Obama/Biden economy, “the new normal” had more than 50,000,000 people on food stamps.

A major change from the Obama/Biden administration is regulations. Their administration frustrated our economy with more regulations than any prior one. In comparison, Trump has not only eliminated many unneeded regulations, but now the current policy is for every new one put into effect two old ones must be eliminated. Thanks to this approach, now our country is energy independent for the first time in many, many years.

Our past "leadership" of Obama/ Biden permitted Iran to get $150 billion in the dreadfully flawed Iran nuclear deal. Our current administration does not waver when confronted by Iran. We now have leadership from the president that has pushed lagging members of NATO to come up with more than $100 million that was not done in previous years to help to properly fund this organization. Another point to remember is the appraisal of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates under Obama, who said he had never seen a judgment by Biden in regard to foreign policy that was correct.

Frankly, I would like to see realistic changes to effect border security that closes our open borders, infrastructure programs that use private investments as well as government funding, and an updated health care program that reins in the cost of health insurance while providing for preexisting conditions and lowering the cost of prescription medications. These three targets could be dealt with if Congress were willing to work for the good of the American public rather than the ongoing unnecessary investigations and constant unwillingness from the lack of leadership in the Democratic-controlled House to accept responsibility and do what is needed.

We have a choice, a businessman, or a relic with the acumen of the community organizer’s administration. What’s yours and why? Are you better off now than in the Obama/Biden years?

Comments (20)
Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Jun 07, 2019 06:44

Oh, Jan, if you didn't spend so much time trying to be the paper saint of conservatism you might actually be able to come up with an original thought.  Arguing with you is like trying to give directions to a crash test dummy.  Yes, I support all the Democratic "proposals" because I know that's exactly what they are and whatever reality comes of them will be worked out with much effort and persuasion on the part of our legislators.  In the meantime I won't hold my breath that people like you will see anything but the hazy panorama of false narratives put out by Liar-in-Chief trump and his collection of swamp creatures.  So, offering anything resembling a reasoned argument to you would be a waste of time and energy.  But, still, I soldier on, don't I.



Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 07, 2019 06:30

See Ron, he's got nothing. Can't even stay on topic.



Posted by: JUNE DOLCATER | Jun 07, 2019 06:13

Empty suits have no opinions of their own regarding far out Democrat-Socialist themes ? Wonder why ? I guess empty is Zero.

Jan Dolcater Rockport



Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 06, 2019 13:20

Ron,

Jan refuses to respond or counter the “cut and pastes” and “copied links” because he has no counter argument that will withstand scrutiny.
Now he wants to change the subject to further avoid having to respond. Also so he can start an argument to distract from the debate at hand.
“Because I say so” in a post is nothing more than opinion.
Unless you back it up that is all it will be, options.
I noticed on another post here a writer wrote a screed of nothing more than conspiracy theories, speculation and personal beliefs and the only two the responded believe it without question. That kind of blind ignorance scares me more than anything. That is how dictators come to power.
As the saying goes “Just because you believe it, doesn’t make it true”



Posted by: JUNE DOLCATER | Jun 06, 2019 07:59

Ron,

Which of the Democrat proposals do you support, any or all>  Do you have an opinion?

Jan Dolcater, Rockport



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Jun 05, 2019 18:43

I love how Jan refuses to even read my "cut and pastes" even when they're from Forbes or Bloomberg but he uses their names for reference when trying to prove a point, though without any address or exact quotes.  Can you give a word for word quote, Jan?  A "cut and paste" even?  Could it be that, Jan, that your grasp of the truth has become as tenuous as trump's, a "businessman" who has failed at every business resulting in his being rejected by every reputable financial organization and being forced to get his loans from Deutsche Bank's store of laundered Russian money?   Remember this, Jan?

 

"I have nothing to do with Russia - no deals, no loans, no nothing."  -Donald Trump, Jan 2017

 

"Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.  We see a lot of money pouring in from Russian." -Eric Trump

 

"Well, we don't rely on American banks.  We have all the funding we need out of Russia." -Donald Trump, Jr.

 

Makes you wonder how much of that money is actually his, doesn't it, Jan?

 

Oh, and here's another result of trump's trade war against the American economy.

 

"U.S. companies added the fewest jobs in nine years, a private survey found, as manufacturers, construction firms and mining companies cut workers.

 

Payroll processor ADP said Wednesday that businesses added just 27,000 jobs in May, the fewest since March 2010. Jobs in construction fell 36,000 and in manufacturing by 3,000.


That is down from last year's average monthly gains of about 225,000.

 

"The economy's growth rate has slowed sharply from last year," Zandi said. "That is now starting to show up in the job market."
https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/nation-world/us-companies-added-the-fewest-jobs-in-9-years-in-may-study-finds/507-5598aa2d-d8fd-48ec-8dcb-0b977b11628e?fbclid=IwAR0zYXQfSlniQuqxXRHRYrTC49wcrY1o67CfO9JH0Kge5_d6gYyuQCVxp8k

 

Doesn't really look like our Buffoon-in-Chief is all that astute business-wise, does it.  But this should make sense of it all.

 

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something without use or value; rubbish; trash; worthless stuff.
nonsense; twaddle: His usual conversation is pure trumpery.
Archaic. worthless finery.
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of little or no value; trifling, worthless; rubbishy; trashy.

 

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Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 05, 2019 17:28

Jan,
Wrong on just about all counts and the links privided through this thread show that. But you didn't read them.

Also,
Argumentum ad ignorantiam
Argumentum ad logicam
Circulus in demonstrando
Cum hoc ergo propter hoc
Dicto simpliciter
Red herring
Straw man

Lastly here are the GDP numbers by year 11-18
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/

But you won't read those either.



Posted by: JUNE DOLCATER | Jun 05, 2019 08:05

to the Obama faithful

Yes, the economy began a turn around in 2011, but for the next five years it was still in the doldrums  The average GDP for the last six years of Obama/Biden was 1.5%  Now over 3%  Lack of over regulations and a pro-business approach  That never existed under the previous administration is the reason. A community organizer (Obama) and a career politician (Biden) have little if any knowledge of how to turn a profit or run a business of any size.

I find it particularly interesting that none of the individuals who prefer to criticize the current economy have not offered their approval of any of the many far left socialist proposals that the Democrats have put forward   Why don't you  get over your shyness and expose your thoughts, or do you have any?

By the way Ron, Trump's estimated net worth by Forbes is 3.1 billion and by Bloomberg was 2.8 billion  How does that match with your accumulation and lack of business acumen?

Nothing like far left looney tunes !!!

Jan Dolcater  Rockport



Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 04, 2019 17:22

Robert,
It started in 2011 all the economic  indicators say so, the economic experts on both sides say so and I posted links form both sides that show that.

Economic recoveries are not instantaneous. They take years sometimes decades to reach what could be considered full recovery. It’s not a switch is a hill that has to be climbed. This is not a binary process. To deny that would mean you never lived through one.
The math doesn’t lie. Go to the links and read how it all works.

 

As to Obama you’re have conveniently, or willfully, forgotten the rest of his accomplishments.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Barack-Obama

Have business acumen is not a requirement.

 

Trump has zero experience in government, has no idea how it all works and more than 50%is business endeavors were failures.

https://www.internationalbusinessguide.org/trump-business-career/

 

The US (counties) cannot be run like a business, Article IV Section 1, Us Constitution.

As for today things are not looking good. There is now an inverse bond yield curve, a large predictor of a recession and the S&P 500 is now doing worse under Trump.

http://fortune.com/2019/06/03/stock-market-trump-obama-sp-500/

 

You can believe whatever you want but I’ll pay attention to what is going on in the real world.

If you are true to form you will ignore all this.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Jun 04, 2019 17:11

"Prosperity back then like there is now," Robert?  May I suggest that you know as little about business as you say Obama does, or that Jan actually does not.  Prosperity for the rich doesn't do the country much good especially when the US is slipping in the "prosperity" ratings.

 

 

"Auto makers are laying off employees at the fastest pace since the financial crisis, according to outplacement services company Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc., as the industry struggles with evolving consumer demand and new technology-based competition.

 

The industry has announced 19,802 in workforce reductions this year through April. That’s more than triple — up 207% — than the 6,451 jobs cuts announced during the same time last year, and the most for the first four months of a year since 101,036 cuts were announced through April of 2009, according to data provided by Challenger, Gray & Christmas."
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/auto-industry-cutting-jobs-at-the-fastest-pace-since-the-financial-crisis-2019-05-21?fbclid=IwAR1-qVMtXvP2X3QacSYWpPUeMSdGp_8hP-FLOm0i-tnbI6wuiLllr9uq6DQ

 

"The United States lost its spot as the world's most competitive economy amid an ongoing trade war with China, according to an annual ranking from the IMD World Competitiveness Center...  also described Trump's ongoing trade war with China as "a tantrum in the sense that it is hurting companies in the United States more than in any other country."

 

Both Singapore and Hong Kong had more competitive economies than the U.S., per the report, which evaluates 63 countries on 235 measures. High fuel prices and fluctuations in the dollar's value diminished the confidence-boosting impact of Trump's tax policies, said the center.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-economy-slips-first-third-place-global-competitiveness-ranking-1439659?fbclid=IwAR3VW1bEf_e5XpX8QLa8g_a4wHOPQAX9VOzJW-jwoH-ry1hvzgl7_0pvW3Y

 

"The net worth of the average 18- to 35-year-old has plummeted 34 percent since 1996, according to new study from accounting group Deloitte.

 

...  the Deloitte study found that the generation is paying more for education, food, transportation and other basic needs, while their incomes have stayed steady.

 

The group's average net worth is now below $8,000, putting today's millennials in a worse financial position than previous generations.

 

“Generally speaking, there have not been dramatic changes in how consumers spend their money.”
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/446372-net-worth-of-americans-aged-18-to-35-has-dropped-34-percent-since-1996-study?fbclid=IwAR3XEZbsCvuVMdRL-2F376opeGxZItwNcQMGEW0eoxx-_rN7XELh7mLCeXc

 

 

Sounds like "business" is down for the average American, not that trump cares, nor, apparently, does Jan.



Posted by: ROBERT W. KNAPP | Jun 04, 2019 16:44

If you think the economic recovery started in 2011, why was there not prosperity back then like there is now. Remember Obama was the one who touted the new normal. He knew nothing about business, never signed an employees paycheck and was nothing more than a community organizer.



Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 03, 2019 13:59

Also Jan, you seem to claim that all this economic growth and low unemployment is solely the result of Trumps actions since bringing elected. That no recovery took place during the previous administration. The economic recovery started in 2011.
Here are links I have posted previously from conservative and liberal sites to back that claim up.
If you are true to form you won’t venture down that road and stay firmly in place, in denial.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/10/30/two-charts-show-trumps-job-gains-are-just-a-continuation-from-obamas-presidency/#4ad8bcdc1af3

https://www.businessinsider.com/charts-prove-trumps-statements-about-economy-are-false-2018-7

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy

https://www.businessinsider.com/3-charts-show-trumps-false-statements-rise-2018-7

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/these-3-charts-hint-that-the-economic-recovery-could-be-fading-181748104.html

https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/chart-book-the-legacy-of-the-great-recession



Posted by: Kevin Riley | Jun 03, 2019 13:50

Jan,

Cut and paste.
That is how all this is done on the web. You type up you piece and supply links and info to support your claims.
You back up what you have to say with verifiable facts from multiple sources, with bibliography.
Without that, it is nothing more than an opinion. I note here there are those that blindly accept those opinions a fact.
If you cannot verify or prove what you assert it’s opinion, nothing more.
Also, I see you still don’t know the difference between a non-binding resolution, legislative proposal or legislative submission.



Posted by: JUNE DOLCATER | Jun 03, 2019 08:37

To Pvt Cut and Paste,

As usual all you seem to be able to do is criticize with snide remarks.  It is obvious that you prefer the lush economy of the "new normal of 1,5 % GDP of Obama/Biden". It is most interesting the only of the pie in the sky proposals that the Democrat/ Socialists have come forth with that you espouse is the "NEW GREEN DEAL"  Since you are an economic genius, please explain how you pay for it  I guess you will come forth with some more hot air rather than reality. Poor, poor Ron

Jan Dolcater, Rockport.



Posted by: Ronald Horvath | Jun 02, 2019 17:57

A "business man," Jan?  Again, are you serious.  Perhaps Steve Bannon said it best.


“This is where it isn’t a witch hunt — even for the hard core, this is where he turns into just a crooked business guy, and one worth $50 [million] instead of $10 [billion]. Not the billionaire he said he was, just another scumbag,” -Steve Bannon, Former Top Trump Aide


And who knows a scumbag better than another scumbag, right?  No honor among thieves, is there.  And do I have to list all of trump's failed businesses?  I mean, if a man has to pay $25 million to buy off his customers' charges of fraud then it usually means he's a fraud.  But you don't have to be a "graduate" of trump university to figure that out.  Or do you?

In any case this pretentious rant is, as Harold has already said, more of the same tired old right wing half truths and outright paranoid fantasies.  I can't believe your buying into that Fox News version of the Green New Deal.  Then again, maybe I can.

You do realize that those rose colored employment figures fail to reveal that it now takes two jobs (or more) to make the same living that a single job did only two decades ago.  

"The sorts of jobs that were once gateways to the middle class — like manufacturing jobs that came with defined-benefit pensions — are being replaced by low-wage positions and chances to join the “gig economy." https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/443794-rosy-economic-data-obscures-the-harsh-reality-for-many-americans?rnd=1557946753&fbclid=IwAR31fgeYm2Dqxfbfsn498ZFIcv1AsuoXpfpqHDGmvGW_mJ8WSpVV3kvvm3Q  

As it has been pointed out the stock market only tells us how the investor class is doing.  Wall street's smiley face figures don't always translate into anything main street can smile about.  

"...  day-to-day costs continue to soar. Middle class life is now 30% more expensive than it was 20 years ago. It’s now common to be just scraping by. A majority of Americans have less than $1,000 in savings and more than 70% of U.S. adults say they’d be in a difficult situation if their paycheck was delayed by a week."

Today, 40 percent of Americans would struggle to come up with $400 in the face of a crisis, with many choosing to sell something or take a loan to come up with the cash...  the underlying issue is disparate economic opportunity.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/nearly-25-percent-of-americans-are-going-into-debt-trying-to-pay-for-necessities.html?fbclid=IwAR3R2k2EILVm11xr6iBJt_lpcp8ZzzJ8RC37sPdZivczG48pexke9CB2WaQ

So, all those jobs for "blacks, for Asians, and for women" that you tout provide the barest existence and in some places not even that.  That's why...

"America is regressing to have the economic and political structure of a developing nation, an MIT economist has warned.

Peter Temin says the world's’ largest economy has roads and bridges that look more like those in Thailand and Venezuela than those in parts of Europe.

In his new book, “The Vanishing Middle Class", reviewed by the Institute for New Economic Thinking, Mr Temin says the fracture of US society is leading the middle class to disappear...  20 per cent of the population that is educated and enjoys good jobs and supportive social networks...  the remaining 80 per cent, he said, are part of the US’ low-wage sector, where the world of possibility has shrunk and people are burdened with debts and anxious about job security.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-developing-nation-regressing-economy-poverty-donald-trump-mit-economist-peter-temin-a7694726.html?fbclid=IwAR2k4Qx0whjETGcJXoEf0LoXXkL2669cxe3Zz-rHe6olqnx2Ox_BrPAcX2M


And, of course, trump's tax cut for the rich hasn't done anything he claimed it would do, but then most of us knew that as well.

"The GOP's latest massive tax cut for the wealthy didn't pay for itself, didn't boost growth, didn't raise wages... it was garbage policy transparently designed to put a big windfall in oligarch pockets."
—David Roberts, Vox

 

That's according to a new analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service (CRS), which appeared to vindicate warnings from progressive critics that the GOP tax cuts were little more than a scam designed to put more money in the pockets of wealthy Americans.

"There is no indication of a surge in wages in 2018 either compared to history or relative to GDP growth," the congressional research arm found, a conclusion that is consistent with recent survey data showing Americans have not seen a paycheck boost from the Trump tax cuts.

The CRS report also suggested that worker bonus announcements by major corporations immediately following the passage of the GOP tax bill in 2017 may have been little more than "a public relations move."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/29/virtually-no-wage-growth-surge-stock-buybacks-study-offers-more-proof-trump-tax-cuts?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR37bwRgUSCeOXrHwVaoopPh9zpu1yWIpD0t34RrQEc-JTVNSzedZ94Eyhw


So much for your "momentum."  I'm also not surprised to hear you pushing that old lie about how Obama "permitted Iran to get $150 billion."  Of course you left out that it was their own money locked up by sanctions.  Another half truth from the right.

And those pesky regulations trump is eliminating were designed to protect the public from the kind of predatory capitalism that has poisoned our air and water, which, thanks to trump, they can now continue to do.  And let's not forget trump signing away prohibitions in selling guns to the mentally ill.  How many new mass murders have we had since he signed that one.  Too many to count?

"More people have been killed at schools this year than have been killed while deployed as members of the military."

And while you're blaming the Democrats for unwillingness to work toward common goals try and remember that trump had both houses in his pocket for his first two years and how much did he get done.  Infrastructure?  No.  Border security?  Hardly. (If trump can come up with $12 billion first and then $16 billion later for rich farmers suffering in his trade war on Americans why such a tantrum over $5 billion for his ridiculous wall?  Inquiring minds...) Improved veterans care?  Not a bit.  How much did McConnell get done while controlling the house and Senate during Obama's term?  Even now the Dems keep sending bills to the Senate only to watch them disappear down McConnell's black hole.  It seems the only things Republicans are interested in are more tax cuts for the rich and removing any impediments to Putin's ongoing assault on our elections.

"Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security. "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/01/republicans-block-money-election-security/884438002/?fbclid=IwAR1f5I2c_R3xa7BzeFZqUZN6LZ4CgTPiDgPnWlVF-L6NDiQPXZKK_SZ6N-o

"Two teams of federal officials assembled to fight foreign election interference are being dramatically downsized, according to three current and former Department of Homeland Security officials. And now, those sources say they fear the department won’t prepare adequately for election threats in 2020.

“The clear assessment from the intelligence community is that 2020 is going to be the perfect storm,” said a DHS official familiar with the teams. “We know Russia is going to be engaged. Other state actors have seen the success of Russia and realize the value of disinformation operations. So it’s very curious why the task forces were demoted in the bureaucracy and the leadership has not committed resources to prepare for the 2020 election.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trumps-dhs-guts-task-forces-protecting-elections-from-foreign-meddling/ar-BBTz3ml?ocid=spartandhp

Still wonder about those "ongoing unnecessary investigations?"  Or like most Republicans you simply avert your eyes when the word "Russian" comes up.  You do realize that only Putin will profit from our increased sanctions on Iran, don't you.  His oil is suddenly much more expensive.   No collusion?



Posted by: Harold Bryson Mosher | Jun 01, 2019 16:25

Mr. Knapp, what you deem "socialistic" someone else might call "in the public interest."  Certainly the proposals discussed are in keeping with the "promote the general welfare" portion of the Preamble to the Constitution.  I suppose we should be happy that your money market account, which you seem to have confused with your savings account, is performing to your expectations.  However, many of us are more concerned with the fully half of Americans that live from paycheck to paycheck and their prospects for, say, retirement.



Posted by: Richard McKusic, Sr. | Jun 01, 2019 15:37

Yes, President Trump and the Republican party has some good ideas. So do the Democrats. Obamacare was one of them. No doubt it was imperfect; that was known from the beginning. Working together things can be tweaked.  Isn't that how things are supposed to work in a household?  My parents did it well, I did not.



Posted by: ROBERT W. KNAPP | Jun 01, 2019 14:22

All of the new ideas proposed by Democrats are socialistic. All of the facts you state are correct. Not propaganda-just facts. The interest earned on a/my savings account under Obama was .05%, again a new normal that Obama said you should just get used to. But now, thanks to Trump's policies, I get 2.3% in my money market account and with no inflation. Thank you Jan for so clearly stating the facts that our great President Trump has accomplished.



Posted by: James Bowers | May 31, 2019 16:00

Old propaganda straight from the republican party. I'm sorry I wasted time reading this in trying to be objective and won't spend the time countering very old cliches and half truths. It's sad to see newsprint wasted on this.



Posted by: Eric Schrader | May 31, 2019 06:48

Well Jan Dolcater, I couldn't have laid out a better case myself. There is just one thing that I'd like to add. Remember when the "stimulus" package got ramped down the throats of the American public in 2009 with a 800 million dollar boondoggle? Guess who the Obama Administrations' overseer was to ensure that "not a dollar is wasted". None other than Sleepy Joe Biden. And don't forget the good laugh that Obama had with Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE, who was on his "Jobs Board", which rarely met about how there was really no "shovel ready" jobs. It was a ruse. The real fiscal problem was that the $ 800 million got institutionalized into the budget leading to our deficits even today. Shrimp on a treadmill anyone or how about the turtle crossing at Alligator Alley?



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